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More Army Red Cross Lies Exposed
More Army Red Cross Lies Exposed
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04 June 2012
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“Removing the distinctive emblem and arming the aircraft will cause medical personnel to lose their protected status of the Geneva Convention; however, the current enemy does not abide by the accepted law of armed conflict.”
Everyone with half a brain knows this, but there’s still pushback; Unbelievable.
The messed up thing is that this was probably researched and put together by the Soldiers that actually do these missions and it fell on fell on deaf ears once it was elevated.
conflict, while flying at heights, at times and on routes specifically agreed upon between the Parties
to the conflict concerned." (GC II, Chapter V, Art 39)
Can anyone provide verified copies of any agreements made between any of the conflict parties? I would think that should be the start of any rational discussion of this misguided policy. Keep kicking the table, everyone - the vibrations are toppling their useless piles of delusions! Thank you Michael for keeping the pressure on.
So, yes - the Army Surgeon General CHOSE to not only ignore this legitimate life-saving option, but to deliberately mislead top Army officials about the JAG authorization to implement the changes to get an order issued to ban change.
Curious as the decision to not arm the helicopters might be, I argue that the willingness of a Lt. General to lie to the Deputy Chief of Staff about FACTS - not opinions - without fear or repercussions is very troubling.
The unwillingness of the Army Surgeons General over a decades long period of time to make decisions in favor of implementing changes that were documented as saving LOTS of lives speaks to an internal senior AMEDD leadership culture that places something(s) higher in priority than saving our wounded troops.
I remind readers that the current Army Surgeon General has placed a very high priority in 2012 on getting a pedometer on every soldier's waistband. She is VERY proud to run the "world's 5th largest HMO".
Is this the time to ask the Veterinarian sitting at the table of senior advisers to the Army Surgeon General to relinquish his seat to someone representing MEDEVAC? Or maybe the Family Medicine representative could step aside during times of war? How about the immunologist or dermatologist? The OB/GYN or the pediatrician? The artillery officer? OK then, can we agree that the sociologist is less important in period with more than a decade of uninterrupted war than a MEDEVAC/truama specialist? This is the **ARMY** first, not an HMO - right?
I assume that this is all about funding and turf and has nothing to do with saving soldiers. Do these general officers actually believe the Geneva Convention has any bearing against a non-state enemy. It's not even relevant to WWII or Korea. Either they are abysmally ignorant or there is a hidden reason we do not understand. BTW, medics have armed themselves since WWII.
If general officers believe their bullshit, I suggest that they remove their body armor, put on a Red Cross armband, and take off their sidearm. Then get in a Red Cross marked helicopter,; fly below 2200' AGL and land at a Dustoff site and join the ground troops. On the way back, he/she probably won't be aware what they are flying home on.
When will the Army get its head out of their ass?
They've known since Vietnam that those red crosses are nothing more than a target. Way past due on fixing this one.
It sounds like command is falling victim to the same Kool-aid drinking that thinks the US is bound by Annexes to the Conventions it did not sign regarding guerrillas, and in any case do not apply to those who do not mark themselves with a distinctive insignia and who are not themselves signatories. Frankly, we could legally execute summarily most Talib/AQ fighters on the battlefield without committing a war crime under the conventions, yet the Kool-Aid drinkers claim Gitmo is a war crime.
Sweden for instance, have their medevac helicopters armed, and no crosses. And they are not flying into half as dangerous zones as their American counterparts.
After all, we Swedes have usually been a pain in the arse (Pardon the expression) when it comes to being politically correct, but if we can fly our medevac choppers with no crosses and armed, there is about zero reasons that our American counterparts should not. Because what should matter is saving lives.
There is no lie being proposed here and the memo makes it clear they looked towards international law when considering the move.
What would have been illegal (and a lie) is if they armed the escort helicopter AND kept the red cross emblem.
Understood your point, thank you. A separate and very important issue is that top brass have been clearly saying that ground commanders have not asked to arm any MEDEVAC birds. Obviously this has been proven false. They have asked and been denied.
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